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Skeptics vs Jenny McCarthy

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  • IPVlazy

    I agree this is a very important issue. We cannot let people like this try destroy our society using fear, this could even be described as something close to terrorism using fear to trick people into thinking that vaccines are bad for them. I will blog about this. BBlogofPeter.blogspot.com

  • bigjohn756

    “She is nothing but a pretty bully…

    I don’t think she is so pretty. Stand her next to Sarah Palin, for example, and she would look downright plain. Of course, if you did that then you might be tempted to compare intellectual(it may not be fair to use that word though) attributes between the two and that would be a tie.

  • I agree with what Jenny MCarthy is doing and the accusation of ignorance should be pointed the other way. Do you have any knowledge of what is actually in our vaccines? Vaccines are full of toxins such as mercury, fermaldehyde (a known cancer causing agent), Phenol (a common disinfectant, dye, and a ddeadly poison), aluminum phosphate (toxic), acetone (a solvent used in FINGERNAIL POLISH), dead animal cells and proteins, Mercury, the list goes on. Vaccine research is outdated and there has been direct evidence that 1 in 150 children vaccinated with the MMR and Measles vaccine have an adverse reaction AND 1 in 150 children are Autistic!!! So who is the one putting our children at risk by their ignorance? It is not about to vaccinate or not to vaccinate but more along the lines of Forcing a Safer Vaccination and are they currently worth the risk?
    http://www.peacehealthandfashion.com

  • I agree with what Jenny MCarthy is doing and the accusation of ignorance should be pointed the other way. Do you have any knowledge of what is actually in our vaccines? Vaccines are full of toxins such as mercury, fermaldehyde (a known cancer causing agent), Phenol (a common disinfectant, dye, and a ddeadly poison), aluminum phosphate (toxic), acetone (a solvent used in FINGERNAIL POLISH), dead animal cells and proteins, Mercury, the list goes on. Vaccine research is outdated and there has been direct evidence that 1 in 150 children vaccinated with the MMR and Measles vaccine have an adverse reaction AND 1 in 150 children are Autistic!!! So who is the one putting our children at risk by their ignorance? It is not about to vaccinate or not to vaccinate but more along the lines of Forcing a Safer Vaccination and are they currently worth the risk?
    http://www.peacehealthandfashion.com

  • skepacabra

    Thanks for the shout-out, Steve. Your support means a lot. The skeptical community has really been helping us tremendously in building this site and supplying us with more detailed information. And of course your suggestions are always welcome.

    -Michael
    http://www.stopjenny.com

  • stopjenny.com

    As Michael said, Thank You! There have been some hacking and technical issues. The old site is currently being replaced. Once these issue, and logo issues, have been resolved, then the site will be expanded as per the recommendations. There is no limit as to what can be done with the site now. We are currently working with many others to increase the information and explore the issues in greater depths. Many of the links lead people to the broader issue, but now they can be expanded upon at the Stop Jenny McCarthy website.

  • Just heard about your blog on the podcast, i’ve been a fan for a long time, good to see this happen.
    Now your stop jenny link is broke, also when you search for stop jenny and find this site:http: //www.site.stopjenny.com/ it seems to have been hijacked.

    Finally, whats going on about The international league of skeptics? Great name, great idea but no website? I think uniting as skeptics is a much better approach than uniting as atheists, I think it would be a great thing to have a website where folks could sign up as practicing skeptics, its like the opposite to a religion, you could even have a creed, starting with: don’t believe what anyone says, not even us, without examining the evidence. The thing is, every atheist has a different idea about the big questions, but skepticism sidesteps that problem by simply taking the evidence based, scientific approach, so it could be argued that all true skeptics do share a common set of ideas, a mental toolbox for evaluating competing theories regarding how the world we live in works. Now i’d like to start up a website like that, but if its like my blog, no one would ever visit, but you guys…

  • Sorry,my mistake, the second link provided by skepacabra works.

  • HCN

    Gypsyllibi shows her lack of research and knowledge by claiming that mercury is the culprit, and then singling out “MMR and Measles vaccine”… Um, the MMR is the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, and has never contained thimerosal (perhaps much of the list you had).

    Also, the majority of the scary 1 in 150 are of the high functioning Asperger’s type of autism that was added to the diagnostic manual in 1994. She continued with “So who is the one putting our children at risk by their ignorance?”

    Well, I would say any an uneducated actress and her followers who do not understand the difference of risk between the vaccine and the actual disease. Right now there is a serious upsurge of measles in the UK, where two young men have already died from measles. Measles, mumps and rubella are major causes of permanent brain damage, deafness, blindness and death (about 1 in 1000 who get measles actually die, as in dead, as in never getting to grow up). Also pertussis causes about a dozen American babies to die. How does that compare to the risks of the DTaP (which has been thimerosal free for several years)?

    You really need to get your medical information from places other than “celebrities” and people just because they are on TV. Try going to your library and reading books by people who know what they are talking about, including parents who have children with autism (Jenny’s son actually has a seizure disorder much like my own son, it is different and has nothing to do with vaccines… especially since my son had his first seizure as a newborn before any vaccine).

    Some suggested reading includes:
    Unstrange Minds by Roy Richard Grinker (check out his website on the changes in the diagnostic criteria, http://unstrange.com/dsm1.html )…
    Not Even Wrong by Paul Collins
    Thinking in Pictures by Temple Grandin
    Autism’s False Prophets by Paul Offit
    … also go see the websites of the those parents, autistic people, educators and researchers at:
    http://www.autism-hub.co.uk/

  • mattdick

    I just wrote in to stopjenny advocating a letter-writing campaign to U.S. Surgeon General Steven Galson. I think we should implore him to request time on Oprah’s show to discuss the issue. Public health is his charter, and it seems to me that Oprah would probably be inclined to have him on. If it happened it would be one of the great outreach activities he could do to try to get people back to immunizing their children.

    I’ll coordinate the effort if people are interested.

  • Gypsilullabi – the “toxin gambit” Utter nonsense. There is no evidence that there is any toxicity from the doses of anything in vaccines. There is more formaldehyde made naturally in your body than in vaccines. Mercury was removed from routine childhood vaccines by 2002 – 6 years later there was no dip in even the rate of increase of autism diagnoses. So much for mercury in vaccines.

    Vaccines are extensively tested for safety. Numerous studies in multiple countries show no correlation to autism. This is pure anti-vaccine pseudoscience.

  • I think the correct link to the “StopJenny” site is http://www.stopjenny.com/

    Somehow the word “site” got inserted by mistake.

  • jo5ef wrote:
    “Finally, whats going on about The international league of skeptics? Great name, great idea but no website?”

    We’ve just started, so for now we’re doing all our work on the SGU forums. We’ve registered a youtube channel, but haven’t completed any videos yet: http://www.youtube.com/user/leagueofskeptics

    We’ll probably create a website if everything keeps going like it is at the moment. (I’ve already registered a blogspot blog just in case.)

  • dacy_ebd

    The fact that Gypsilullabi would listen to an ex-Playmate of the year about vaccines over an actual doctor clearly demonstrates his/her galactic scale delusions. It would be like me getting a 5 year old to explain to me how to drive a car over say…..a driving instructor.

    The mercury thing especially does my head in. It’s not like they were putting pure mercury in it surely? It’s a compound. You don’t worry about the sodium and chlorine on your french fries.

    People in the UK a few years ago when the media were playing up the MMR vaccine crap were instead turning to non MMR vaccine alternatives made in Eastern Europe that were choc full of retro-viruses (this info came from a biochemist friend of mine, i can’t reference it, call me on it if you know better). People are scared about their children’s health so they put their children’s health at risk. We have to destroy the anti-vaccine movement, it is one of the most dangerous pseudo-scientific groups out there in quackland where Jenny freaking McCarthy appears to be the president.

    Meh

  • wastrel

    Finally, whats going on about The international league of skeptics? Great name, great idea but no website? I think uniting as skeptics is a much better approach than uniting as atheists, I think it would be a great thing to have a website where folks could sign up as practicing skeptics, its like the opposite to a religion, you could even have a creed, starting with: don’t believe what anyone says, not even us, without examining the evidence. The thing is, every atheist has a different idea about the big questions, but skepticism sidesteps that problem by simply taking the evidence based, scientific approach, so it could be argued that all true skeptics do share a common set of ideas, a mental toolbox for evaluating competing theories regarding how the world we live in works.

    We are just getting started up. Thanks for the vote of support though!

    We are discussing our current projects on the SGU forum, you can view the HQ here:
    http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,15147.0.html

    We have a Facebook group, but it is mainly just a meet and greet type of place.

    Finally, we just registered our incredibly cumbersome domain name:
    http://internationalleagueofskeptics.com

    If you want to help, please sign up. Any and all expertise and desire to participate will be much appreciated.

  • Thanks guys, I don’t make movies, but i still love the name, and i really think that skeptics uniting worldwide is a great idea. I was just reading on another article on this site that Bill Maher doesn’t accept the germ theory of disease – this is is exactly why i think the various attempts to unite atheists are misguided. Despite his atheism Maher is clearly no skeptic as he’s rejecting strong evidence in favour of weak evidence in that case, and i for one don’t want to be lumped into the same category as him.
    Skeptics unite!

  • stopjenny.com

    Hi there,

    Please change the address in the stopjenny.com link in the above article to http://stopjenny.com instead of http://site.stopjenny.com. The one with “site” in the address was used at first because smartspace was being used. The domain name to keep the address current no matter what happens has always just been http://www.stopjenny.com though. Thank you!

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