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		<title>By: socketslide</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/ufo-over-chilean-air-base/comment-page-1/#comment-41024</link>
		<dc:creator>socketslide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Oliver has it right - for that &quot;object&quot; to traverse such a large distance in one frame of video (1/30 of a second) it would appear as nothing more than a smudge, completely blurred.  Instead it&#039;s apparently the same shape in every frame regardless of its motion across the frame?  Those who think this might be real are being had.   Definitely an amateur job in AfterEffects or Motion...  Pretty weak, but surprising it&#039;s fooled so many people, including the reality-challenged Leslie Kean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Oliver has it right &#8211; for that &#8220;object&#8221; to traverse such a large distance in one frame of video (1/30 of a second) it would appear as nothing more than a smudge, completely blurred.  Instead it&#8217;s apparently the same shape in every frame regardless of its motion across the frame?  Those who think this might be real are being had.   Definitely an amateur job in AfterEffects or Motion&#8230;  Pretty weak, but surprising it&#8217;s fooled so many people, including the reality-challenged Leslie Kean.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy1: &quot;Sounds like the office where you were working was the very same monolithic building by the Thames known for its UFO hotline. If my assumption here is correct, then you must have known that the line had been disconnected years ago.&quot;

Is this a reference to the Secret Service HQ on Vauxhall Bridge? I was a further upstream on the South Bank. The guy was flying his kite from the small park there. 

I&#039;d assumed the hotline was set up by UFO enthusiasts (but I wouldn&#039;t know, I didn&#039;t ring it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy1: &#8220;Sounds like the office where you were working was the very same monolithic building by the Thames known for its UFO hotline. If my assumption here is correct, then you must have known that the line had been disconnected years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this a reference to the Secret Service HQ on Vauxhall Bridge? I was a further upstream on the South Bank. The guy was flying his kite from the small park there. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d assumed the hotline was set up by UFO enthusiasts (but I wouldn&#8217;t know, I didn&#8217;t ring it).</p>
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		<title>By: Judy1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteveA says - 

“I once saw a UFO in London. I was working in a large office building by the Thames and saw a weird object hanging in the sky.”

Sounds like the office where you were working was the very same monolithic building by the Thames known for its UFO hotline.  If my assumption here is correct, then you must have known that the line had been disconnected years ago. 

So why did you attempt to phone it? 

Next time Steve … just ask a colleague! That way you’ll save yourself 50 pence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveA says &#8211; </p>
<p>“I once saw a UFO in London. I was working in a large office building by the Thames and saw a weird object hanging in the sky.”</p>
<p>Sounds like the office where you were working was the very same monolithic building by the Thames known for its UFO hotline.  If my assumption here is correct, then you must have known that the line had been disconnected years ago. </p>
<p>So why did you attempt to phone it? </p>
<p>Next time Steve … just ask a colleague! That way you’ll save yourself 50 pence.</p>
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		<title>By: xxi_centuryboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>xxi_centuryboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stationed on Patrick AFB in FL during the 80&#039;s when the regular launches of the shuttle were going on. I saw and personally attended launches and landings of the shuttle at NASA. Like many people in Fl during that time, I sat across the lagoon, signed the waiver that said the shuttle exhaust might ruin the finish on my car and skin, and drank a brewski to the good ol USA. The launches were incredible, but the landings were unbelievable. Fast is an understatement. I have seen night launches, day launches, landings, and the Challenger blowing up. Once you see this in action, you would never again believe the crap  you see on a video like this. That was reality, and is was so crazy freaking awesome to see it that even now looking back it is hard to believe we did it. We know what space craft moving through our atmosphere does and what it would look like. This video ain&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stationed on Patrick AFB in FL during the 80&#8242;s when the regular launches of the shuttle were going on. I saw and personally attended launches and landings of the shuttle at NASA. Like many people in Fl during that time, I sat across the lagoon, signed the waiver that said the shuttle exhaust might ruin the finish on my car and skin, and drank a brewski to the good ol USA. The launches were incredible, but the landings were unbelievable. Fast is an understatement. I have seen night launches, day launches, landings, and the Challenger blowing up. Once you see this in action, you would never again believe the crap  you see on a video like this. That was reality, and is was so crazy freaking awesome to see it that even now looking back it is hard to believe we did it. We know what space craft moving through our atmosphere does and what it would look like. This video ain&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once saw a UFO in London. I was working in a large office building by the Thames and saw a weird object hanging in the sky. It was hard to tell if it was solid or not; it seemed to shift around and fold in on itself in a very alien way. It was also impossible to tell how large it was or how distant: it could have been the size of a bumblebee and couple of feet away or the size of a house at half a mile. I had nothing to compare it to but figured it must be on the small side otherwise there’d be crowds of people gathered to watch it. 

I called over a workmate and we both watched it. (He was a UFO believer and tried to report it to a UFO hotline number, but found it had been disconnected). Neither of us could make out what the thing was and this was in broad daylight with perfect visibility. It moved a little like a kite, swaying slightly but maintaining position as far as I could tell, but there was no string that I could see. We were the only two people in the office that day and watched it for around ten minutes before we had to go to a meeting. When we got back it had gone. 

So that was my UFO experience. Except a week later I saw it again and this time I COULD see the string and the man on the other end - it was just a kite, a weirdly designed kite of a type I’d never seen before (or since). I called over my believer friend and pointed out the ‘UFO’ and the kite-flyer, but he just shrugged and went back to work.

Thinking back on the incident I was struck by the way my telling of it changed when I described it to other people: The sentence &#039;I couldn&#039;t see a string&#039; quickly morphed to the definite &#039;There was no string&#039;. I made a point of going back to all the people I&#039;d told about the UFO to give them the explanation; there&#039;s enough UFO garbage flying around as it is.

It’s so easy to be fooled. I recently came across a report of a man who observed formations of pulsing light crossing the horizon. He was amazed by the sight and even more astonished when he realised the lights were the setting sun reflecting from the feathers of migrating geese (the pulsing was caused by the beating wings). He said he would not have believed the explanation if he&#039;d not seen it for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once saw a UFO in London. I was working in a large office building by the Thames and saw a weird object hanging in the sky. It was hard to tell if it was solid or not; it seemed to shift around and fold in on itself in a very alien way. It was also impossible to tell how large it was or how distant: it could have been the size of a bumblebee and couple of feet away or the size of a house at half a mile. I had nothing to compare it to but figured it must be on the small side otherwise there’d be crowds of people gathered to watch it. </p>
<p>I called over a workmate and we both watched it. (He was a UFO believer and tried to report it to a UFO hotline number, but found it had been disconnected). Neither of us could make out what the thing was and this was in broad daylight with perfect visibility. It moved a little like a kite, swaying slightly but maintaining position as far as I could tell, but there was no string that I could see. We were the only two people in the office that day and watched it for around ten minutes before we had to go to a meeting. When we got back it had gone. </p>
<p>So that was my UFO experience. Except a week later I saw it again and this time I COULD see the string and the man on the other end &#8211; it was just a kite, a weirdly designed kite of a type I’d never seen before (or since). I called over my believer friend and pointed out the ‘UFO’ and the kite-flyer, but he just shrugged and went back to work.</p>
<p>Thinking back on the incident I was struck by the way my telling of it changed when I described it to other people: The sentence &#8216;I couldn&#8217;t see a string&#8217; quickly morphed to the definite &#8216;There was no string&#8217;. I made a point of going back to all the people I&#8217;d told about the UFO to give them the explanation; there&#8217;s enough UFO garbage flying around as it is.</p>
<p>It’s so easy to be fooled. I recently came across a report of a man who observed formations of pulsing light crossing the horizon. He was amazed by the sight and even more astonished when he realised the lights were the setting sun reflecting from the feathers of migrating geese (the pulsing was caused by the beating wings). He said he would not have believed the explanation if he&#8217;d not seen it for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: willradik</title>
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		<dc:creator>willradik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if I&#039;m being perfectly logical there I should say he didn&#039;t believe UFO&#039;s were aliens. He certainly believed &quot;and mentioned&quot; several UFO reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if I&#8217;m being perfectly logical there I should say he didn&#8217;t believe UFO&#8217;s were aliens. He certainly believed &#8220;and mentioned&#8221; several UFO reports.</p>
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		<title>By: willradik</title>
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		<dc:creator>willradik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I am always baffled by those who angrily oppose the probability that there is life outside of our little blue marble planet. The universe is a big, old neighborhood that is teeming with life. So take off the blinders, open your mind and eyes, and ponder the possibility that we are not alone. It’s okay…I won’t mock you!&quot;

JohKen - This is a big ol&#039; straw man. You&#039;re confusing someone saying there&#039;s no proof for alien visitation of Earth with someone saying there&#039;s no life whatsoever in the Universe. HUGE difference. Carl Sagan, for example, didn&#039;t believe in UFO reports but was very keen on the possibility of alien life somewhere out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I am always baffled by those who angrily oppose the probability that there is life outside of our little blue marble planet. The universe is a big, old neighborhood that is teeming with life. So take off the blinders, open your mind and eyes, and ponder the possibility that we are not alone. It’s okay…I won’t mock you!&#8221;</p>
<p>JohKen &#8211; This is a big ol&#8217; straw man. You&#8217;re confusing someone saying there&#8217;s no proof for alien visitation of Earth with someone saying there&#8217;s no life whatsoever in the Universe. HUGE difference. Carl Sagan, for example, didn&#8217;t believe in UFO reports but was very keen on the possibility of alien life somewhere out there.</p>
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		<title>By: willradik</title>
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		<dc:creator>willradik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Birds have been mistaken for UFOs in the past&quot;

Are there any reports of a monkey ever having been mistaken for a UFO in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Birds have been mistaken for UFOs in the past&#8221;</p>
<p>Are there any reports of a monkey ever having been mistaken for a UFO in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Novella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Novella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - and I too experienced an encounter with an unidentified (that&#039;s the key word) flying object, that silently moved overhead. Turns out it was a group of ultralights flying in formation, specifically to look like a UFO. Sounds pretty similar to what you experienced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8211; and I too experienced an encounter with an unidentified (that&#8217;s the key word) flying object, that silently moved overhead. Turns out it was a group of ultralights flying in formation, specifically to look like a UFO. Sounds pretty similar to what you experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Novella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Novella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the feedback. Many of the points made against the bug hypothesis sound valid. Perhaps it is a hoax - I tend to try to find a non-hoax explanation when possible, but it could just be a hoax. 

Regading the Huff Po - it promotes medical pseudoscience, which is what I said. I don&#039;t care how wonderful it is otherwise - it deserves to be endlessly criticized for promoting dangerous medical nonsense. Perhaps we can shame it into irmproving its editorial policy when it comes to science. 

Johken - the &quot;open mind&quot; gambit does not fly. I have an open mind to logic and evidence. Having an open mind does no erase the terrible logic and gullibility employed by the author. I am open specifically to the notion that we are not alone, and even that we are being visited - just show me evidence that isn&#039;t pathetically laughable. 

I have not experienced &quot;inexplicable healing&quot; - and I like how you dismiss this evidence out of hand with the &quot;no true Scotsman&quot; logical fallacy. That good confirmation bias. Speaking of confirmation bias - I am not angry, and not against the idea of alien life. There is simply no credible evidence that we have been visited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the feedback. Many of the points made against the bug hypothesis sound valid. Perhaps it is a hoax &#8211; I tend to try to find a non-hoax explanation when possible, but it could just be a hoax. </p>
<p>Regading the Huff Po &#8211; it promotes medical pseudoscience, which is what I said. I don&#8217;t care how wonderful it is otherwise &#8211; it deserves to be endlessly criticized for promoting dangerous medical nonsense. Perhaps we can shame it into irmproving its editorial policy when it comes to science. </p>
<p>Johken &#8211; the &#8220;open mind&#8221; gambit does not fly. I have an open mind to logic and evidence. Having an open mind does no erase the terrible logic and gullibility employed by the author. I am open specifically to the notion that we are not alone, and even that we are being visited &#8211; just show me evidence that isn&#8217;t pathetically laughable. </p>
<p>I have not experienced &#8220;inexplicable healing&#8221; &#8211; and I like how you dismiss this evidence out of hand with the &#8220;no true Scotsman&#8221; logical fallacy. That good confirmation bias. Speaking of confirmation bias &#8211; I am not angry, and not against the idea of alien life. There is simply no credible evidence that we have been visited.</p>
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