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		<title>By: Ted N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding all those conspiracy theories about UFO, government cover up and the like, i just wonder, who in his/her right mind would ever dare cover up, conceal one of our greatest discoveries (if not the greatest!) and the answer to mankind&#039;s most crucial question (&quot;Are We Alone?&quot;), namely the absolute, present and ...flying evidence of the existence of other, alien, intelligent life forms??

It makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding all those conspiracy theories about UFO, government cover up and the like, i just wonder, who in his/her right mind would ever dare cover up, conceal one of our greatest discoveries (if not the greatest!) and the answer to mankind&#8217;s most crucial question (&#8220;Are We Alone?&#8221;), namely the absolute, present and &#8230;flying evidence of the existence of other, alien, intelligent life forms??</p>
<p>It makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey chaos4zap: Thanks for your reply. Perhaps, &quot;alternative view&quot; may not be an appropriate term. I did borrow such a term from a historian who wrote the history of religion in the U.S. from WWII to the present. He discussed UFOs as a new religious belief system. He labeled UFOs as an &quot;alternative&quot; belief system apart from old time religion. In short, my book &quot;How Modern Society Invented UFOs,&quot; talks about the complete myth of alien visitations. I break the myth down into various themes and attempt to demonstrate how they reflect today&#039;s culture. It&#039;s a skeptical-sociological approach to UFOs. In the end, the UFO myth developed as we entered into modern society, a new era of secularism. Simply stated, the uneasiness of scientific materialism was manifested through the UFO myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey chaos4zap: Thanks for your reply. Perhaps, &#8220;alternative view&#8221; may not be an appropriate term. I did borrow such a term from a historian who wrote the history of religion in the U.S. from WWII to the present. He discussed UFOs as a new religious belief system. He labeled UFOs as an &#8220;alternative&#8221; belief system apart from old time religion. In short, my book &#8220;How Modern Society Invented UFOs,&#8221; talks about the complete myth of alien visitations. I break the myth down into various themes and attempt to demonstrate how they reflect today&#8217;s culture. It&#8217;s a skeptical-sociological approach to UFOs. In the end, the UFO myth developed as we entered into modern society, a new era of secularism. Simply stated, the uneasiness of scientific materialism was manifested through the UFO myth.</p>
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		<title>By: chaos4zap</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaos4zap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Albert Ramos,

I would agree that UFO lore has evolved with our culture, media portrayal, etc... but I&#039;m not sure what you mean by UFO&#039;s serving as an alternative view to understand today&#039;s times?  I&#039;m not sure how a belief in UFO&#039;s would help anyone understand anything about our times (unless the theory is that aliens are not just visiting, but interacting and having some sort of direct impact on our lives).  I think in specific cases (such as with sleep paralysis, waking dreams, etc...) the UFO, or at least abduction, stories may be people attempting to explain a phenomenon that is unusual and could be frightening if one did not understand what was really going on, but I&#039;m not sure how the idea that aliens are flying around, occasionally crashing and mutilating cattle would really help anyone understand and make sense of anything about today&#039;s times.  Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but I just thought I would throw my opinion out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Albert Ramos,</p>
<p>I would agree that UFO lore has evolved with our culture, media portrayal, etc&#8230; but I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by UFO&#8217;s serving as an alternative view to understand today&#8217;s times?  I&#8217;m not sure how a belief in UFO&#8217;s would help anyone understand anything about our times (unless the theory is that aliens are not just visiting, but interacting and having some sort of direct impact on our lives).  I think in specific cases (such as with sleep paralysis, waking dreams, etc&#8230;) the UFO, or at least abduction, stories may be people attempting to explain a phenomenon that is unusual and could be frightening if one did not understand what was really going on, but I&#8217;m not sure how the idea that aliens are flying around, occasionally crashing and mutilating cattle would really help anyone understand and make sense of anything about today&#8217;s times.  Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but I just thought I would throw my opinion out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Novella: I am glad to meet your acquaitance. The NYC Skeptics mentioned your name and I am honored to post a response. here.

In 2008, republished in 2010, I wrote &quot;How Modern Society Invented UFOs.&quot; There are various conclusions that I draw. The overall theme that stands out is that UFOs and alien abductions are a myth that reflect today&#039;s times. I suppose I am proponent of the Psycho-cultural Hypothesis, a perspective I just recently learned about.

All myths were created to explain reality based on society&#039;s historical circumstances and culture. The UFO myth is no exception. Not only has secularism emerged, the post WWII world brought on fears, anxiety, and uncertainty. For some UFOs serves as an alternative view to understand today&#039;s times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Novella: I am glad to meet your acquaitance. The NYC Skeptics mentioned your name and I am honored to post a response. here.</p>
<p>In 2008, republished in 2010, I wrote &#8220;How Modern Society Invented UFOs.&#8221; There are various conclusions that I draw. The overall theme that stands out is that UFOs and alien abductions are a myth that reflect today&#8217;s times. I suppose I am proponent of the Psycho-cultural Hypothesis, a perspective I just recently learned about.</p>
<p>All myths were created to explain reality based on society&#8217;s historical circumstances and culture. The UFO myth is no exception. Not only has secularism emerged, the post WWII world brought on fears, anxiety, and uncertainty. For some UFOs serves as an alternative view to understand today&#8217;s times.</p>
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		<title>By: chaos4zap</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaos4zap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BilliyJoe7,

Really?  I think possible, but not probable is as honest a statement (by scientific standards) that one can give.  Nothing is ever 100% and there is always a possibility, no matter how slim, that anything is true or false (even if you have lots of evidence to the contrary)  It is true that once things reach a certain probability, we talk about them as if they are absolutely true, but no matter what, there is always a possibility it is wrong.  This is why it is meaningless, in the technical sense of the question, to ask if something is possible.  From a technical standpoint, I do have to admit that it is possible that fairies are in the garden, bigfoot is out there and we just haven’t found unicorn&#039;s yet, but these things are so improbable that for practical reason, we just say they aren&#039;t there.  Wording a response as &quot;possible, but not probable&quot; is a fairly clear way to say &quot;yeah, sure it&#039;s possible to some degree...but that is irrelevant for practical reasons and there is no reason to think that&#039;s the case&quot;  Sure it might sound a little wishy-washy but I&#039;m not sure how one could be more honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BilliyJoe7,</p>
<p>Really?  I think possible, but not probable is as honest a statement (by scientific standards) that one can give.  Nothing is ever 100% and there is always a possibility, no matter how slim, that anything is true or false (even if you have lots of evidence to the contrary)  It is true that once things reach a certain probability, we talk about them as if they are absolutely true, but no matter what, there is always a possibility it is wrong.  This is why it is meaningless, in the technical sense of the question, to ask if something is possible.  From a technical standpoint, I do have to admit that it is possible that fairies are in the garden, bigfoot is out there and we just haven’t found unicorn&#8217;s yet, but these things are so improbable that for practical reason, we just say they aren&#8217;t there.  Wording a response as &#8220;possible, but not probable&#8221; is a fairly clear way to say &#8220;yeah, sure it&#8217;s possible to some degree&#8230;but that is irrelevant for practical reasons and there is no reason to think that&#8217;s the case&#8221;  Sure it might sound a little wishy-washy but I&#8217;m not sure how one could be more honest.</p>
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		<title>By: andyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta give those aliens a break. They &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;don&#039;t even know&lt;/a&gt; why they&#039;re here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta give those aliens a break. They <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU" rel="nofollow">don&#8217;t even know</a> why they&#8217;re here.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJoe7</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyJoe7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>canadia,

Oh well, we&#039;re talking about a mountain and you&#039;re talking about a grain of sand. Nevermind then.

&quot;I also was not alive during the cold-war era, but i had the impression that UFO investigation was a higher priority back then, if only to see if it was the soviets.&quot;

You have that backwards.
Ufologists attempted to persuade the public that the USA government saw UFO investigation as a priority but, in fact, they were actually keeping an eye out for possible soviet missile launches. 
(Of course, because it was meant to be a covert operation, they would not have been in a position to deny the ufologists&#039;s claims.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>canadia,</p>
<p>Oh well, we&#8217;re talking about a mountain and you&#8217;re talking about a grain of sand. Nevermind then.</p>
<p>&#8220;I also was not alive during the cold-war era, but i had the impression that UFO investigation was a higher priority back then, if only to see if it was the soviets.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have that backwards.<br />
Ufologists attempted to persuade the public that the USA government saw UFO investigation as a priority but, in fact, they were actually keeping an eye out for possible soviet missile launches.<br />
(Of course, because it was meant to be a covert operation, they would not have been in a position to deny the ufologists&#8217;s claims.)</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJoe7</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyJoe7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chaos4zap,

&quot;He gave me the possible, but not probable response. I told him he is my man;&quot;

Youy still have the wrong man.

Green&#039;s response might be more reasonable than Kaku&#039;s, but that does not make it reasonable by scientifiic standards.
There is no evidence for alien visitation and loads of reasons why it is not happening. By Green&#039;s standard, you might as well believe that faeries visiting the bottom of your garden is&lt;i&gt; possible&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chaos4zap,</p>
<p>&#8220;He gave me the possible, but not probable response. I told him he is my man;&#8221;</p>
<p>Youy still have the wrong man.</p>
<p>Green&#8217;s response might be more reasonable than Kaku&#8217;s, but that does not make it reasonable by scientifiic standards.<br />
There is no evidence for alien visitation and loads of reasons why it is not happening. By Green&#8217;s standard, you might as well believe that faeries visiting the bottom of your garden is<i> possible</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Withakay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Withakay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alien visitation is inherently improbable.  The energy requirements are literally astronomical, and the cost vastly outweighs any practical benefit of the trip.

I&#039;ve covered the subject in a series of posts on my blog:

http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/space-posts/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alien visitation is inherently improbable.  The energy requirements are literally astronomical, and the cost vastly outweighs any practical benefit of the trip.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve covered the subject in a series of posts on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/space-posts/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/space-posts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: canadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>canadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wasn&#039;t talking about anything so Hollywood. Maybe NASA sees something, or maybe they find some tiny piece of evidence, a scrap or fragment or something. I&#039;d have a hard time believing that if for any reason they did find it, it would end up anywhere other than deep in some warehouse.

I also was not alive during the cold-war era, but i had the impression that UFO investigation was a higher priority back then, if only to see if it was the soviets. If governments were doing anything to look for this stuff, I assumed it would be back then.

I do not think that any government has access or has had access to alien technology ever. Every technological advance ever has a clear lineage in terms of previous ones. Alien-acquired tech would stick out like a sore thumb. Nor do I think that aliens have ever &quot;visited&quot; earth and shook hands or taken pictures of anyone.

My point was that if there was some tiny but conclusive or even suggestive piece of evidence, it seems likely that if a state-level power found it, they would have no reason to release the knowledge to the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wasn&#8217;t talking about anything so Hollywood. Maybe NASA sees something, or maybe they find some tiny piece of evidence, a scrap or fragment or something. I&#8217;d have a hard time believing that if for any reason they did find it, it would end up anywhere other than deep in some warehouse.</p>
<p>I also was not alive during the cold-war era, but i had the impression that UFO investigation was a higher priority back then, if only to see if it was the soviets. If governments were doing anything to look for this stuff, I assumed it would be back then.</p>
<p>I do not think that any government has access or has had access to alien technology ever. Every technological advance ever has a clear lineage in terms of previous ones. Alien-acquired tech would stick out like a sore thumb. Nor do I think that aliens have ever &#8220;visited&#8221; earth and shook hands or taken pictures of anyone.</p>
<p>My point was that if there was some tiny but conclusive or even suggestive piece of evidence, it seems likely that if a state-level power found it, they would have no reason to release the knowledge to the general public.</p>
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