But you can still kind of see it

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/creationist-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-33102

Praise be his noodly appendage
And pesto be upon the holy Midgit

MADMIDGITZ out

It just irritates me that’s all

P.s ( the above post was the first time I ever intruded on to a comments section EVER. Zach pissed me off enough to make register so I guess he achieved something good today/yesterday)

So don’t give up nybgrus and others hold this post while I encourage others holding down the fort in other comment threads with the the threat of creationists taking it over

LOL. Thanks madmidgitz. I’ll take that as a compliment.

But don’t worry so much. As I just explained to a friend over lunch today, whether or not Zach or any creationist leaves her with a false victory in his mind or not and hur durrs it with his brohims matters very little. I’ve managed to learn that the goal is not to convert those so ingrained as to be nearly unsalvagable. (In fact it speaks a bit to the lack of free will as to how hard that actually is to do – if free will really existed I would be “free” to simply start believing in Jeebus. But I can’t, even if I tried. And Zach can’t simply start thinking rationally and logically since he simply doesn’t have the necessary neural cytoarchitecture in place to do so. Only small changes based on feedback loop modification are possible.)

Leaving the conversation behind for others is useful in and of itself. Those watching and those reading later who are on the fence or may wish to agree with us but don’t know why can see this exchange and learn from it better than any post on logical fallacy or cognitive bias. Seeing the juxtaposition between rational, reasoned, evidence based discourse and the rantings of theistic apologism highlights the differences and can help make it more clear. Those already inclined (such as NaA) will only see affirmation. But those on the fence will finally see concrete examples to learn from.

This is similar to theistic debates. I find those to still be useful, unlike the creationist debates. If you look at the one where Hitch and Fry managed to convince a large swath of the audience that Catholicism was a force of evil, depsite their a priori assumptions, that should edify you.

I wrote this on iPhone. so sorry for the spelling and grammar

While ignoring the large amount of “proof” and “evidence(sneery voice agian)amounted against him, he takes phrases and nit picks at the terms and definitions, while all the points everyone else has made are conveniently not mentioned in his responses

If he’s not going to argue rationally I will argue irrationally

Zach if you do not stop trolling and get a life the Flying Spaghetti Monster will get drunk and well…(look up Japanese tentacle porn if you want to get an idea) all the points that can be made for your ” I’m not YEC but Jesus was The Lord incarnate and Mary had a baby while still a virgin I’m pretty sure I take the bible literally ” view work for the FSM.

for your information the world was created in 2001 by the FSM thats what the great prophet Henderson said and must be true, therefore the speed if light only became constant when the anti-pasta: Hawking invented black holes proving that it wasn’t constant after all

Oh and back to your main point “science can’t define the world because that’s not scientific” is pure and simple distraction from the “fact” that your stupid…. Wait that’s not ad hominem: you’re not wrong because you stupid. Your stupid because you’re wrong!

Also everyone’s saying can we drop this, which would be a good idea, but then once everyone’s gone you’ll get your creationist buddies and be like “I got the last word in I must be right because they gave up hur hur”

So don’t give up nybgrus and others hold this post while I encourage others holding down the fort in other comment threads with the the threat of creationists taking it over

Also all the ( this a direct quote ) “standard athiest arguments” were invented by your camp I meant who better to learn logical fallacies and distractions from than creationists

The End