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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemmesee... Woman Of No Importance, no... Dorian Gray, um, er.. Ballad Of Reading Gaol....

OK, I got nuthin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemmesee&#8230; Woman Of No Importance, no&#8230; Dorian Gray, um, er.. Ballad Of Reading Gaol&#8230;.</p>
<p>OK, I got nuthin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Niles</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3896</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why the hint of raillery and calumny?  Is there after all so little importance in being earnest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why the hint of raillery and calumny?  Is there after all so little importance in being earnest?</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ll be damned. Roy is Oscar Wilde&#039;s little brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ll be damned. Roy is Oscar Wilde&#8217;s little brother!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Niles</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3855</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m told that the huntress does bear a striking resemblance to Terry Gilliam, if that helps.

As to our next production, we are right now in the Paducah tryouts and my character (see reference below) hasn&#039;t been that well received.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Grossmith_as_Bunthorne.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m told that the huntress does bear a striking resemblance to Terry Gilliam, if that helps.</p>
<p>As to our next production, we are right now in the Paducah tryouts and my character (see reference below) hasn&#8217;t been that well received.</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Grossmith_as_Bunthorne.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Grossmith_as_Bunthorne.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3853</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, your delightful paeon to G &amp; S hadn&#039;t yet posted when I last posted. When will we see this production on the stage, and will you be singing the lead? 

Funny stuff. (Though I&#039;m more Monty Python than Gilbert &amp; Sullivan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, your delightful paeon to G &amp; S hadn&#8217;t yet posted when I last posted. When will we see this production on the stage, and will you be singing the lead? </p>
<p>Funny stuff. (Though I&#8217;m more Monty Python than Gilbert &amp; Sullivan).</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3846</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused Huntress. 

You&#039;ve taken us to task a bit in your first post for not knowing or believing that psychic detectives help police and governments all over the world. This implies you believe psychic detectives are genuine (all evidences to the contrary).

In your last post you say you&#039;ve received no earth shattering info in your few visits to psychics, but if you did you&#039;d abandon that psychic and, depending on the nature of the info, might even report the psychic to the police. This implies you&#039;ve no reason to believe psychics are geniune, and may even be disingenuous.

How would you know the earth-shattering variety of info a psychic might give you - the type over which you&#039;d report the psychic to the police - wasn&#039;t true and something you ought to personally act upon?

Your reports and claims drift all over the place, post to post, till one can no longer tell what you&#039;re saying about psychics....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused Huntress. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve taken us to task a bit in your first post for not knowing or believing that psychic detectives help police and governments all over the world. This implies you believe psychic detectives are genuine (all evidences to the contrary).</p>
<p>In your last post you say you&#8217;ve received no earth shattering info in your few visits to psychics, but if you did you&#8217;d abandon that psychic and, depending on the nature of the info, might even report the psychic to the police. This implies you&#8217;ve no reason to believe psychics are geniune, and may even be disingenuous.</p>
<p>How would you know the earth-shattering variety of info a psychic might give you &#8211; the type over which you&#8217;d report the psychic to the police &#8211; wasn&#8217;t true and something you ought to personally act upon?</p>
<p>Your reports and claims drift all over the place, post to post, till one can no longer tell what you&#8217;re saying about psychics&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Niles</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DevilsAdvocate, who enjoys a good comedy, caused me to open a psychic channel to Gilbert and Sullivan, who forwarded this little ditty through the ether:

I am the very model of a sensible adult
I&#039;ve information vegetable, animal, and occult
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical

I&#039;m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical
About binomial theorem I&#039;m teeming with a lot o&#039; news
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse

I&#039;m very good at integral and differential calculus
I know the scientific names of beings animalculous
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and occult
I am the very model of a sensible adult</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DevilsAdvocate, who enjoys a good comedy, caused me to open a psychic channel to Gilbert and Sullivan, who forwarded this little ditty through the ether:</p>
<p>I am the very model of a sensible adult<br />
I&#8217;ve information vegetable, animal, and occult<br />
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical<br />
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical<br />
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical<br />
About binomial theorem I&#8217;m teeming with a lot o&#8217; news<br />
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very good at integral and differential calculus<br />
I know the scientific names of beings animalculous<br />
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and occult<br />
I am the very model of a sensible adult</p>
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		<title>By: huntressristich</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>huntressristich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s good to know Roy.  I didn&#039;t know that, but I&#039;m not surprised.  It really doesn&#039;t worry me though as there is nothing to be gleaned from such a service that would lead me to believe or disbelieve what any psychic may tell me.  

Also, that really isn&#039;t the point of  the article though.  Unless you think that the psychic, knowing the Teacher&#039;s Aide worked at a school,  and having found out the names of students in her class,  purposely gave this tip about possible abuse to the Teacher&#039;s Aide so that the Teacher&#039;s Aide would have that student&#039;s family investigated for abuse.  Like  the Psychic had a grudge against that person&#039;s family and used her position as a  psychic advisor to cause trouble for the family.

That is an interesting idea and probably worth following up on.  If I were you I&#039;d contact the police department involved in investigating this case and inform them of this possibility.

As I said before, I have actually personally only gone to a psychic a few times and have never gained any earth shattering information from them.  However, if I was being told frightening or unusual things, I would stop going to that psychic and perhaps, depending upon the information, would report that psychic to the authorities.  That is what an intelligent, sensible adult would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good to know Roy.  I didn&#8217;t know that, but I&#8217;m not surprised.  It really doesn&#8217;t worry me though as there is nothing to be gleaned from such a service that would lead me to believe or disbelieve what any psychic may tell me.  </p>
<p>Also, that really isn&#8217;t the point of  the article though.  Unless you think that the psychic, knowing the Teacher&#8217;s Aide worked at a school,  and having found out the names of students in her class,  purposely gave this tip about possible abuse to the Teacher&#8217;s Aide so that the Teacher&#8217;s Aide would have that student&#8217;s family investigated for abuse.  Like  the Psychic had a grudge against that person&#8217;s family and used her position as a  psychic advisor to cause trouble for the family.</p>
<p>That is an interesting idea and probably worth following up on.  If I were you I&#8217;d contact the police department involved in investigating this case and inform them of this possibility.</p>
<p>As I said before, I have actually personally only gone to a psychic a few times and have never gained any earth shattering information from them.  However, if I was being told frightening or unusual things, I would stop going to that psychic and perhaps, depending upon the information, would report that psychic to the authorities.  That is what an intelligent, sensible adult would do.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3838</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a while since I&#039;ve enjoyed a good comedy, so I&#039;d like to thank Huntress for the whirling dervish, all over the road performance - psychics help the police and military, don&#039;t we know that? - psychics are only for entertainment purposes, what&#039;s the harm? - psychics haven&#039;t hurt my husband and I, so far as we know, what&#039;s the harm? ... and so on and so on, back and forth, all over the road. 

Repeat: Psychics = Hogwash

http://www.skepdic.com/psychdet.html

http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve enjoyed a good comedy, so I&#8217;d like to thank Huntress for the whirling dervish, all over the road performance &#8211; psychics help the police and military, don&#8217;t we know that? &#8211; psychics are only for entertainment purposes, what&#8217;s the harm? &#8211; psychics haven&#8217;t hurt my husband and I, so far as we know, what&#8217;s the harm? &#8230; and so on and so on, back and forth, all over the road. </p>
<p>Repeat: Psychics = Hogwash</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepdic.com/psychdet.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepdic.com/psychdet.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Niles</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/psychic-alleges-sexual-abuse/comment-page-2/#comment-3837</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no rule hat psychics have to be smart, but there is a rule that clients should preferably be stupid.

And Huntress, I just can&#039;t let this one pass without comment:
&quot;Of course, if an extremely wealthy person were a client of a particular psychic there might be more reason to learn more about that client and that could in fact be what Roy is referring to.&quot;

The psychics subscribe to these data base services for a monthly fee.  They don&#039;t get direct access because they don&#039;t qualify as having permissible purposes under fair credit laws.  These services are bootlegged through psychic organizations or from someone such as their friendly neighborhood attorney.

Every client that comes in - and during one day they may have 10 or more - has their name checked before they can see the psychic in private.  It may cost the psychic less than $10.00 for a voluminous report.  if the purpose was legitimate, the client would be told this was being done and charged accordingly.  The clients are never told about this, however, and never are asked for permission to do this research legally.
Few to none of these clients are wealthy.  The data is used to gull them into believing the psychic really does have magical powers, and the psychic&#039;s reputation is enhanced accordingly.
If huntress and her husband are regular customers of any such psychic, they will of course have no idea this has been done in their cases as well.
Huntress&#039; belief that psychics &quot;really believe&quot; that they are in communication with the spirit world would depend on those psychics actually getting reliable information from such spirits, and so far none have been discovered or at least have come forward, that can credibly demonstrate such talents.
But as we can see, people will go to incredible lengths to rationalize their need to believe in these creatures, and perhaps because the good Lord has provided them as the fodder needed for such creatures to multiply and prosper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no rule hat psychics have to be smart, but there is a rule that clients should preferably be stupid.</p>
<p>And Huntress, I just can&#8217;t let this one pass without comment:<br />
&#8220;Of course, if an extremely wealthy person were a client of a particular psychic there might be more reason to learn more about that client and that could in fact be what Roy is referring to.&#8221;</p>
<p>The psychics subscribe to these data base services for a monthly fee.  They don&#8217;t get direct access because they don&#8217;t qualify as having permissible purposes under fair credit laws.  These services are bootlegged through psychic organizations or from someone such as their friendly neighborhood attorney.</p>
<p>Every client that comes in &#8211; and during one day they may have 10 or more &#8211; has their name checked before they can see the psychic in private.  It may cost the psychic less than $10.00 for a voluminous report.  if the purpose was legitimate, the client would be told this was being done and charged accordingly.  The clients are never told about this, however, and never are asked for permission to do this research legally.<br />
Few to none of these clients are wealthy.  The data is used to gull them into believing the psychic really does have magical powers, and the psychic&#8217;s reputation is enhanced accordingly.<br />
If huntress and her husband are regular customers of any such psychic, they will of course have no idea this has been done in their cases as well.<br />
Huntress&#8217; belief that psychics &#8220;really believe&#8221; that they are in communication with the spirit world would depend on those psychics actually getting reliable information from such spirits, and so far none have been discovered or at least have come forward, that can credibly demonstrate such talents.<br />
But as we can see, people will go to incredible lengths to rationalize their need to believe in these creatures, and perhaps because the good Lord has provided them as the fodder needed for such creatures to multiply and prosper.</p>
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