Comments on: MS and Lyme Disease

By: laus

laus — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:00:23 +0000

In Response To ‘Morbane’s’ comment – ‘Even though we don’t even have the tic borne bacterium responsible for Lyme Disease in this hemisphere’

Oh really? Let’s not be ignorant and appear foolish…Allow me to educate you…

The Tick borne bacterium responsible for Lyme Disease does exist in this hemisphere. In fact I was infected in Australia. My mother was infected by a Tick and it was passed onto me in utero. I also was reinfected by a bird mite that burrowed under my skin.

The Government base their denial on one limited study by Russell & Doggett (1994). Russell & Doggett only tested Borrelia Burgdorferi (American strain) under the false assumption that Burgdorferi was the only strain to cause Lyme Disease. The European strains Garinii and Afzelii also cause Lyme Disease and are the most common strains in Australia. The Government did not take into account studies by: Mackerras (1959), Carley & Pope (1962), Wills & Hudson (1991), Wills & Barry (1994) whom isolated multiple strains of Borrelia (including Burgdorferi) from Australian native animals and/or people. An article I read stated that Russell & Doggett noted observing a bacteria that resembled Borrelia but did not identify it or offer an alternative name for it. Refer the following links re studies:

http://www.karlmcmanusfoundation.org.au/lyme-information/lyme-disease-borrelliosis-in-australia

http://www.lymedisease.org.au/about-lyme-disease/myths-surrounding-lyme-disease-in-australia/

Birds, rodents and deer are the most common hosts of Lyme Disease. Migratory birds and stowaway rodents are not quarantined. Imported deer and livestock are not tested for Lyme Disease. Lyme infected people from overseas who reside in Australia can be bitten by ticks, mites and other arthropods. These arthropods can then pass the disease onto others. Therefore, how can one logically state that Australia is somehow immune to Lyme Disease?

Lyme Disease induces an inflammatory response from the immune system. It is therefore responsible for many autoimmune disorders hence the exponential rise in autoimmune and autism spectrum disorders (and yes; ASD is an autoimmune disorder – inflammation of the brain).

As for your inflammatory and misinformed comments regarding John Coleman, Naturopath, Lancefield. He has supplied me with Byron White Formulas (BWF) after an extensive consultation, questionnaire and communication with my medical Doctor. He is very thorough, educated and compassionate. I have progressed extremely well on the BWF. My:

- inflammation has dramatically reduced
- gum disease and tooth sensitivity have resolved
- arthritic pain and stiffness is resolving
- trembling in left hand has ceased
- body temperature is now regulated so that I no longer feel cold when it’s 25oC
- compromised cognitive processing has resolved
- auditory processing disorder has resolved (background noise no longer overpowers foreground
noise)
- Asperger traits have disappeared

The BWF are hitting Lyme and Co Disease hard.

To explore Lyme Disease in Australia further and educate oneself contact The Lyme Disease Association of Australia (LDAA)

http://lymedisease.org.au/

LDAA will direct people to accurate testing (IGeneX) and to Doctors who treat Lyme Disease. Local laboratories do not have the sensitive testing protocols that IGeneX have and therefore can result in false negatives.

By: John Coleman

John Coleman — Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:17:43 +0000

My name is John Coleman. It’s unfortunate that Morbane forgot to check facts before cowardly defaming me under an assumed name. There is only one true statement in the tirade above – my name is John Coleman.
I am not a “Life Force Practitioner” but do attend a clinic in Malvern called Liforce one day each fortnight.
Let us, for one moment, put aside the numerous studies identifying both imported and indigenous species of Borrelia (the “Lyme” spirochete) in Australia, but we cannot deny the 15,000+ Australians positively diagnosed with Borrelia infection via blood and PCR testing. The only arguments are whether there is a common indigenous species of Borrelia and whether there is such a disease and chronic Lyme disease.
By the way Morbane, LLMD (that is Lyme Literate Medical Doctor) is an internationally recognised qualification granted by the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society in USA after a period of study. There are very few doctors with these qualifications in Australia, unfortunately, or we would have less ignorance of the facts.
I do not claim to have CURED myself of Parkinson’s disease, but there is no doubt that I certainly had advanced symptoms of Parkinson’s in 1995 and now live without symptoms or medication. A number of other people have achieved this also. We are not CURED, we have recovered our health. Perhaps you can do that also if you are prepared to open your mind to facts instead of introverted mumbo jumbo.
It is true that there is a growing number of GP’s in Australia recognising, diagnosing and treating Lyme disease and co-infections. Some of them prescribe Byron White Formulas for their patients and, as the Australasian Importer, I supply the prescribed remedies either to the doctors (rarely) or to the patient on instruction. From time to time, doctors and naturopaths treating those positively diagnosed with Lyme or a co-infections exchange views for the benefit of patients. Most recently this occurred at the Tick Borne Disease Conference in Sydney during April.
As for the TGA, I am sure they will be interested in Morbane’s views, as they are very particular about the safety of remedies offered in Australia.
As I said above, it would be preferable if people like Morbane actually checked their facts before making defamatory comments on a public blog. Despite their cowardice in hiding behind a nom de plume, they are easily identified and, if necessary, I will take this step.
I look forward to a more sensible and factual discussion on this site.

By: Morbane

Morbane — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:45:17 +0000

Looks like this particular brand of woo has landed in Australia unfortunately – even though we don’t even have the tic borne bacterium responsible for Lyme Disease in this hemisphere. There’s a “Life Force Practitioner” called John Coleman distributing Byron White Formulas in Australia now. Everything from detox to treatments for Lyme Disease. He’s also written an autobiography claiming he cured himself of Parkinson Disease, pretty talented guy apparently. The scary part is he’s enlisted a growing group of General Practitioners whom he refers to as LLMDs (Lyme Literature Medical Doctors), some of which are stocking his herbal formulas and referring a “growing number of patients presenting with Lyme Disease” to him. It would seem according the LLMDs that anyone that’s immune compromised or displaying a collection of non-specific symptoms such as fatigue allegedly has Lyme Disease now. And it seems that the Australian regulatory body, the TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration), is powerless and you could drive a truck through the loop holes for “traditional therapies” and supplements in our legislation. Although maybe we should keep that under wraps, I don’t want to broadcast that as an invitation to woo-mungers.

By: BillyJoe7

BillyJoe7 — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:10:01 +0000

“Registered Nurses”

Yo might think you are worthy of capitalization, but get you are not even fit to pull on the apron strings of the mighty Medical Profession.

By: Davdoodles

Davdoodles — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:25:07 +0000

What is most telling (in my opinion) about conspiracy theorists is the vehemence with which they typically espouse their ‘beliefs’.

It’s like they know it doesn’t make sense, but are in too deep to recant now, so they become ever more strident in their defence of it. As much to convince themselves and drown out their own doubts, as to convince anyone else.

As Queen Gertrude said: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”…
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By: hippiehunter

hippiehunter — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:27:42 +0000

I’m feeling a bit left out of all these big pharma conspiracies.
Are us Registered Nurses assumed to be blindly following our medico masters blithely unaware that they have been fooling us all along?
I’ve not read of my profession being in the pocket of big pharma and frankly its a little insulting.
Do I have to go to http://www.whale.to/ and submit my own condemnation of nurses knowingly turning children into 3 headed monsters with vaccines and nasty kemicals in order to get the recognition we deserve?
Nurses can be evil to you know.

By: SARA

SARA — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:19:19 +0000

The thought I had while reading this is – Novella is part of the conspiracy. He is the “mouth piece” spreading disinformation.

Think about how many mouth pieces. As #macomeau says, the cost of a proper conspiracy has to be staggering.

But the thing that strikes me the most is the fact that they ignore human nature. You cannot get that many humans to act in accordance to your conspiracy. People will talk. Whether to rat you out, or just be be the person with the best gossip at happy hour. And that doesn’t even take into account for the general chaos of things just going wrong and accidentally revealing it all.

Plus, and I really think medical conspiracy theorists should look seriously at this – I’m not entirely convinced that there is a good mathematical reason for the massive cover ups. Corporations always chase short term profit. The billions to be made in just a few years from curing Lyme disease or MS would far out way any other consideration for a corporation. Research is an expense not a money making venture for corporations. The palliative drugs may be constant income, but as I say, the stock price jumps from the cure. And frankly, why should a pharma corporation have any vested interest in keeping any other corporation, university or hospital in the money?

I have the above conversation with a ‘cancer already has a cure’ conspiracy person. It has no effect at all.

By: BillyJoe7

BillyJoe7 — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:17:04 +0000

In fact, there IS a lack of control. Especially in the USA. The liberatarian, free market political philosophy of about half the population, even those who are severely disadvantaged by it, is all about reducing control to minimum. And we all know the consequences of that. Scary. But I wonder if conspiracy theorists are more common in the USA? If so, possibly this is the reason.

By: Bronze Dog

Bronze Dog — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:10:40 +0000

I also tend toward the notion that conspiracy theorists need the illusion of having someone in control of our chaotic world. It’s “comforting” to the extent that they might be abnormally discomforted by uncertainty.

I think it’s also a part of authoritarian mindsets and tribal instincts. I suspect if you asked a conspiracy theorist how they’d want to set up the world’s governments, a lot might favor authoritarian dictatorships or oligarchies led by people they trust. Though I can imagine others would favor some kind of anarchic system where grassroot mobs overthrow anyone who does something they don’t like and consider that the one and only true check and balance against people in power. The latter case seems to come up with theorists who don’t understand the checks and balances that are in place or how they work.

By: locutusbrg

locutusbrg — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:18:14 +0000

Dear Big Pharma.
Please forward my check as soon as possible, you are very behind on your payments. If you do not make payment quickly I will be forced to disclose everything, and I mean everything. Without that check I will not be able to look my chronically ill patient in the eye with sincerity and tell them that they cannot have the Amoxicillin to treat their MS. I will have to stop burning MRI’s and reports. Most of all I will have to tell millions of lawyers that they do have the biggest class action suit of all time.
So get on the ball. I wish it was the good old days when the church would burn you alive for saying that microbes caused illness not sin.
Oh Well
Sincerely
Stephen