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		<title>By: BillyJoe7</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyJoe7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how long do the climate scientists have to collect data before it is no longer &quot;preliminary&quot;?
And how many predictions of climate models have to pan out until they can be declared &quot;accurate&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how long do the climate scientists have to collect data before it is no longer &#8220;preliminary&#8221;?<br />
And how many predictions of climate models have to pan out until they can be declared &#8220;accurate&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonymoniae</title>
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		<dc:creator>pseudonymoniae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, Dr. Novella. 

Even while admitting the obvious hubris of these politicians, it is worth mentioning the possibility that nobody may be qualified to accurately model the effects of climate change. As you point out, extrapolation from a limited dataset is an exceptionally difficult affair, particularly when applied to study of an uncontrolled system such as the Earth&#039;s climate. Given this confound, it becomes an exceptionally difficult situation when what amounts to preliminary scientific data is used in the political sphere. This present example is really just the converse of this problem, where politicians are actively attempting to step into the scientific sphere. Needless to say, neither of these actions bode well for the future of climate change research and policy. 

That aside, I am personally pretty skeptical of prognostication in general (even when the prognosticators have very fancy instruments and models). In this case, I think it&#039;s worth taking a fairly moderate perspective: which is that whether or not the current predictions are right, I pretty much like how the Earth is right now, and I don&#039;t like fossil fuels enough to risk screwing everything up. Why mess around with something so good just so we can drive fast cars and planes, and power a bunch of fancy gadgets which are really just good for keeping us entertained 24/7 and making better and better models to predict what the future will look like? 

I like to keep in mind that technological progress is not always inherently better than regress. And by this I mean technology cannot be said to be a good in and of itself. The extent to which individuals have enjoyed a good quality of life has waxed and waned throughout human history, and while this tends to be correlated with political, social and technological advance (e.g. promotion of political and social freedoms, increased availability of technology), this does not imply that more technology is necessarily better. There are technologies which are good, those which are lousy and those which are frankly harmful--and the unfortunate problem of us humans is that we often aren&#039;t very good at making this distinction. If there is one potentially promising outcome which may arise from the current state of apocalypticism about climate change, it is that it will force us to make a reckoning about which technologies we really cannot do without. And if we&#039;re lucky, we may just make those truly useful technologies a little bit more efficient. 


~neuroautomaton.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Dr. Novella. </p>
<p>Even while admitting the obvious hubris of these politicians, it is worth mentioning the possibility that nobody may be qualified to accurately model the effects of climate change. As you point out, extrapolation from a limited dataset is an exceptionally difficult affair, particularly when applied to study of an uncontrolled system such as the Earth&#8217;s climate. Given this confound, it becomes an exceptionally difficult situation when what amounts to preliminary scientific data is used in the political sphere. This present example is really just the converse of this problem, where politicians are actively attempting to step into the scientific sphere. Needless to say, neither of these actions bode well for the future of climate change research and policy. </p>
<p>That aside, I am personally pretty skeptical of prognostication in general (even when the prognosticators have very fancy instruments and models). In this case, I think it&#8217;s worth taking a fairly moderate perspective: which is that whether or not the current predictions are right, I pretty much like how the Earth is right now, and I don&#8217;t like fossil fuels enough to risk screwing everything up. Why mess around with something so good just so we can drive fast cars and planes, and power a bunch of fancy gadgets which are really just good for keeping us entertained 24/7 and making better and better models to predict what the future will look like? </p>
<p>I like to keep in mind that technological progress is not always inherently better than regress. And by this I mean technology cannot be said to be a good in and of itself. The extent to which individuals have enjoyed a good quality of life has waxed and waned throughout human history, and while this tends to be correlated with political, social and technological advance (e.g. promotion of political and social freedoms, increased availability of technology), this does not imply that more technology is necessarily better. There are technologies which are good, those which are lousy and those which are frankly harmful&#8211;and the unfortunate problem of us humans is that we often aren&#8217;t very good at making this distinction. If there is one potentially promising outcome which may arise from the current state of apocalypticism about climate change, it is that it will force us to make a reckoning about which technologies we really cannot do without. And if we&#8217;re lucky, we may just make those truly useful technologies a little bit more efficient. </p>
<p>~neuroautomaton.com</p>
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		<title>By: steve12</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power. Either way, you would want to target those people first. Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free. I’m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing. I prefer prevention to cure if possible.&quot;

Can you give an example of what you mean? I&#039;m still confused....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power. Either way, you would want to target those people first. Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free. I’m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing. I prefer prevention to cure if possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you give an example of what you mean? I&#8217;m still confused&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanclus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanclus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power.  Either way, you would want to target those people first.  Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free.  I&#039;m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing.  I prefer prevention to cure if possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power.  Either way, you would want to target those people first.  Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free.  I&#8217;m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing.  I prefer prevention to cure if possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanclus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanclus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power.  Either way, you would want to target those people first.  Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but it if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free.  I&#039;m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing.  I prefer prevention to cure if possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steve12 Not most oppressive, but most potential oppressive power.  Either way, you would want to target those people first.  Most people agree that tyranny is wrong, but it if we were to remove the motivation and the enabling factors that allow for tyranny we would be tyranny free.  I&#8217;m not suggesting that it is easy to do that, but it would be a good thing.  I prefer prevention to cure if possible.</p>
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		<title>By: locutusbrg</title>
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		<dc:creator>locutusbrg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@siggyboss
The nuance you are missing is- the state medical board. Usually made up primarily by volunteer physician. As opposed to the state legislature made up on primarily non physicians. Big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@siggyboss<br />
The nuance you are missing is- the state medical board. Usually made up primarily by volunteer physician. As opposed to the state legislature made up on primarily non physicians. Big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: steve12</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The question may often be who or what has the most oppressive power?&quot;

I don&#039;t understand this Q, tbh. My point is that any agent that&#039;s oppressive or tyrannical ought to be called to account. Why would I care who wins the title as the most oppresive?

&quot;The ideas of tyranny can be easily extrapolated and employed by both groups, governments and individuals, but it is the motivation behind tyrannical acts that we must be always cautious of. &quot;

Why would I care about the motivation? Tyranny is wrong - I don&#039;t really care what drives them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The question may often be who or what has the most oppressive power?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand this Q, tbh. My point is that any agent that&#8217;s oppressive or tyrannical ought to be called to account. Why would I care who wins the title as the most oppresive?</p>
<p>&#8220;The ideas of tyranny can be easily extrapolated and employed by both groups, governments and individuals, but it is the motivation behind tyrannical acts that we must be always cautious of. &#8221;</p>
<p>Why would I care about the motivation? Tyranny is wrong &#8211; I don&#8217;t really care what drives them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanclus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanclus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question may often be who or what has the most oppressive power?  It is the power to oppress that is at the heart of tyranny and it is the motivation for oppression that may be the most telling.  In most cases, oppression takes the form of an excessive and unjust use of power.  Where there is tyranny, there is purpose.   The ideas of tyranny can be easily extrapolated and employed by both groups, governments and individuals, but it is the motivation behind tyrannical acts that we must be always cautious of.  Fear and ignorance have many names and faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question may often be who or what has the most oppressive power?  It is the power to oppress that is at the heart of tyranny and it is the motivation for oppression that may be the most telling.  In most cases, oppression takes the form of an excessive and unjust use of power.  Where there is tyranny, there is purpose.   The ideas of tyranny can be easily extrapolated and employed by both groups, governments and individuals, but it is the motivation behind tyrannical acts that we must be always cautious of.  Fear and ignorance have many names and faces.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitpicking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitpicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;An imaginary number is a number whose square is less than or equal to zero ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, Siggyboss, that would make zero an imaginary number. Technically I suppose one could make that argument since 0i  = 0, but it&#039;s a very odd thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>An imaginary number is a number whose square is less than or equal to zero &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, Siggyboss, that would make zero an imaginary number. Technically I suppose one could make that argument since 0i  = 0, but it&#8217;s a very odd thought.</p>
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		<title>By: eiskrystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>eiskrystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happens if the bill passes and scientists ignore it? I mean does this bill have traction outside of North Carolina or is this just going to all be a bit embarrassing to the idiots that came up with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happens if the bill passes and scientists ignore it? I mean does this bill have traction outside of North Carolina or is this just going to all be a bit embarrassing to the idiots that came up with it?</p>
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