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		<title>By: HHC</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/google-atlantis/comment-page-1/#comment-9973</link>
		<dc:creator>HHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maximus-primus,  I think King Neptune traded in his trident to the U.S. Navy.  The Navy has sonar.;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maximus-primus,  I think King Neptune traded in his trident to the U.S. Navy.  The Navy has sonar.;^)</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/google-atlantis/comment-page-1/#comment-9972</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whiteness as a sign of purity... and of veneration and wisdom, an allusion to the white-haired elders of a culture.</description>
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		<title>By: maximus-primus</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximus-primus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just proves Atlantis had advanced technology, i.e. sonar.</description>
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		<title>By: HHC</title>
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		<dc:creator>HHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atlantis, logically, would be the Azores.  There are no UFOs only a U.S. Air Force base there.  The only beasts which existed were the secret police from Portugal.</description>
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		<title>By: Basayev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basayev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some of the funnier reader comments from the Sun article:

&quot;Maybe some remains of man-made structures would be found??? The Titanic wreckage was in excellent condition after 80+ years. Maybe a Star Crystal will be found????&quot; [I mean, yeah, 80 years, 9,000 years, what&#039;s the difference?]

&quot;... it&#039;s an abandoned undersea ufo base - it was only a few fathoms down before the last polar shift - atlantis is off the coast of cuba ...&quot;

&quot;Troy was a myth too at one time. People should not be too hasty to dismiss these claims until they are proven false. &quot; [People should be more open minded to works of fiction. I&#039;d like to see one person who has proven Hogwarts isn&#039;t real.]

&quot;With a name like Atlantis it&#039;s pretty obvious it would be in the Atlantic and not the Pacific.&quot; [Oh yeah, the Greeks spoke English and called every body of water by its modern English name. They didn&#039;t call it Pacifis, dammit!]

&quot;I believe that the description of the Beast from revelations is a perfect match for Atlantis as it rises from the sea. if you check the geology of the Atlantis plate you see heads and heads with horns. 666 is part of the date of the resurfacing. Just as it was sunk by an asteroid/comet, it will resurface by a asteroid/comet.&quot;

&quot;Atlantis was in war with Mu [basically the Atlantis of the Pacific] and they destroyed each other in high-tech war. It is described in bible as the great deluge (Noah - 8 000 years before Christ). ... Than we have Men in Black, secret organization that destroys every strange evidences because they are elite, and they enjoy privileges in this kind of civilization where they can exploit Earth. They don&#039;t want us to know about UFO or existence of Atlantis, because we could revolt against common thinking.&quot;

And my favorite:

&quot;first of all,I think that Darwin was very wrong in saying we have evolved from monkeys. The monkeys are still monkeys, but humans are moving at an almighty pace toward self annihalation&quot; [Yes, for some reason, that was on an article about Atlantis.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some of the funnier reader comments from the Sun article:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe some remains of man-made structures would be found??? The Titanic wreckage was in excellent condition after 80+ years. Maybe a Star Crystal will be found????&#8221; [I mean, yeah, 80 years, 9,000 years, what's the difference?]</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; it&#8217;s an abandoned undersea ufo base &#8211; it was only a few fathoms down before the last polar shift &#8211; atlantis is off the coast of cuba &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Troy was a myth too at one time. People should not be too hasty to dismiss these claims until they are proven false. &#8221; [People should be more open minded to works of fiction. I'd like to see one person who has proven Hogwarts isn't real.]</p>
<p>&#8220;With a name like Atlantis it&#8217;s pretty obvious it would be in the Atlantic and not the Pacific.&#8221; [Oh yeah, the Greeks spoke English and called every body of water by its modern English name. They didn't call it Pacifis, dammit!]</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe that the description of the Beast from revelations is a perfect match for Atlantis as it rises from the sea. if you check the geology of the Atlantis plate you see heads and heads with horns. 666 is part of the date of the resurfacing. Just as it was sunk by an asteroid/comet, it will resurface by a asteroid/comet.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Atlantis was in war with Mu [basically the Atlantis of the Pacific] and they destroyed each other in high-tech war. It is described in bible as the great deluge (Noah &#8211; 8 000 years before Christ). &#8230; Than we have Men in Black, secret organization that destroys every strange evidences because they are elite, and they enjoy privileges in this kind of civilization where they can exploit Earth. They don&#8217;t want us to know about UFO or existence of Atlantis, because we could revolt against common thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>And my favorite:</p>
<p>&#8220;first of all,I think that Darwin was very wrong in saying we have evolved from monkeys. The monkeys are still monkeys, but humans are moving at an almighty pace toward self annihalation&#8221; [Yes, for some reason, that was on an article about Atlantis.]</p>
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		<title>By: Skepthink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepthink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eiskrystalon,

&quot;White is often used as a sign of purity.
In hot countries pale skin implies status (not working in the hot sun all day).
It would not be surprising therefore to have a “white” god.&quot;

Certainly that wouldn&#039;t be impossible. But, you must also consider that there was one single god, Quetzalcoatl (and the relevant one, in the sense that it was the one coming from the East), who was white. Why all other gods were not as characteristically white? Did they have a &quot;lower&quot; status? Were they not gods?

And what do you make of the beard, in that case? If they were mimicking their own experience as regards how people look, what were they mimicking as far as the beard is concerned? I think beard was not a particularly common feature in the body appearance of indigenous Americans.

Plus, I don&#039;t know if there was enough variation in the melanin levels of indigenous Indians to make them think of some of their own as &quot;white&quot; (they&#039;re already pretty dark, and maybe need not be more to be able to endure exposure to tropical levels of sunlight). In fact, I think there&#039;re no &quot;white Indians&quot; recorded anywhere. So I wonder where did they get the idea from. Plus a beard at the same time? Even if white is a sign of purity, what is white plus a beard? A sign of &quot;hairy purity&quot;?

Consider also that the same applies to almost any society anywhere: a Greek villager was probably also tanner than a Greek philosopher or a Greek priest. However, I think they had no distinctively white gods. And what about Egyptians? Any white gods? They had the falcon god and the dog god but, I think, no particularly white gods, not even any salient such god. Perhaps they didn&#039;t get pale when avoiding exposure to sunlight, but that would be an even stranger explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eiskrystalon,</p>
<p>&#8220;White is often used as a sign of purity.<br />
In hot countries pale skin implies status (not working in the hot sun all day).<br />
It would not be surprising therefore to have a “white” god.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly that wouldn&#8217;t be impossible. But, you must also consider that there was one single god, Quetzalcoatl (and the relevant one, in the sense that it was the one coming from the East), who was white. Why all other gods were not as characteristically white? Did they have a &#8220;lower&#8221; status? Were they not gods?</p>
<p>And what do you make of the beard, in that case? If they were mimicking their own experience as regards how people look, what were they mimicking as far as the beard is concerned? I think beard was not a particularly common feature in the body appearance of indigenous Americans.</p>
<p>Plus, I don&#8217;t know if there was enough variation in the melanin levels of indigenous Indians to make them think of some of their own as &#8220;white&#8221; (they&#8217;re already pretty dark, and maybe need not be more to be able to endure exposure to tropical levels of sunlight). In fact, I think there&#8217;re no &#8220;white Indians&#8221; recorded anywhere. So I wonder where did they get the idea from. Plus a beard at the same time? Even if white is a sign of purity, what is white plus a beard? A sign of &#8220;hairy purity&#8221;?</p>
<p>Consider also that the same applies to almost any society anywhere: a Greek villager was probably also tanner than a Greek philosopher or a Greek priest. However, I think they had no distinctively white gods. And what about Egyptians? Any white gods? They had the falcon god and the dog god but, I think, no particularly white gods, not even any salient such god. Perhaps they didn&#8217;t get pale when avoiding exposure to sunlight, but that would be an even stranger explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is correct to say that talk of &#039;Atlantis&#039; is premature from photos like the above.  
I think that what Bernie is engaged in is a method of getting funds to do further investigation.
You might get a bit of cash going out to look into the &#039;straight lines&#039;, but you&#039;ll probably get a lot more to &#039;find Atlantis&#039;.

To quote Nietzsche
&quot;Do you believe that the sciences would have arisen and grown up if the sorcerers, alchemists, astrologers and witches had not been their forerunners... Yea, and that infinitely more had to be promised than could have been fulfilled?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is correct to say that talk of &#8216;Atlantis&#8217; is premature from photos like the above.<br />
I think that what Bernie is engaged in is a method of getting funds to do further investigation.<br />
You might get a bit of cash going out to look into the &#8216;straight lines&#8217;, but you&#8217;ll probably get a lot more to &#8216;find Atlantis&#8217;.</p>
<p>To quote Nietzsche<br />
&#8220;Do you believe that the sciences would have arisen and grown up if the sorcerers, alchemists, astrologers and witches had not been their forerunners&#8230; Yea, and that infinitely more had to be promised than could have been fulfilled?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eiskrystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>eiskrystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White is often used as a sign of purity. 

In hot countries pale skin implies status (not working in the hot sun all day). 

It would not be surprising therefore to have a &quot;white&quot; god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White is often used as a sign of purity. </p>
<p>In hot countries pale skin implies status (not working in the hot sun all day). </p>
<p>It would not be surprising therefore to have a &#8220;white&#8221; god.</p>
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		<title>By: Skepthink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepthink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheBlackCat,

&quot;According to wikipedia, Aztlan is thought to be to the North (...) not the east.&quot;

Yes, you are right and I now acknowledge my mistake. I also realized this part of the argument was becoming too central, so I too carried out a more thorough study and, after checking all my sources, I saw virtually all of them place Aztlan to the North of the relative position of the Aztec geography. So, my reference was grossly wrong and I wonder where I learned that from (some alien memory implant, most likely ;-)

Though it might still be remotely the case that I had come across a source that took some other point as spatial reference, or according to which Aztecs had come from the East as part of some previous migration, these are mere speculations and any such explanation would require far more evidence to be true than it takes to simply accept this commonly agreed version of the myth. It seems definitely more likely that I confused the stories of Aztlan&#039;s location and Quetzalcoatl&#039;s return from the West.

So I wish to withdraw my statement that Atlantis&#039; position was somewhere to the East or in the Atlantic Ocean, as well as to give up the corresponding &quot;coincidence&quot; in my equation.

Even though, I think there are still a non-trivial number of interesting facts unaccounted for as regards the whole story (namely, the rest of the coincidences in the equation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheBlackCat,</p>
<p>&#8220;According to wikipedia, Aztlan is thought to be to the North (&#8230;) not the east.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you are right and I now acknowledge my mistake. I also realized this part of the argument was becoming too central, so I too carried out a more thorough study and, after checking all my sources, I saw virtually all of them place Aztlan to the North of the relative position of the Aztec geography. So, my reference was grossly wrong and I wonder where I learned that from (some alien memory implant, most likely <img src='http://theness.com/neurologicablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Though it might still be remotely the case that I had come across a source that took some other point as spatial reference, or according to which Aztecs had come from the East as part of some previous migration, these are mere speculations and any such explanation would require far more evidence to be true than it takes to simply accept this commonly agreed version of the myth. It seems definitely more likely that I confused the stories of Aztlan&#8217;s location and Quetzalcoatl&#8217;s return from the West.</p>
<p>So I wish to withdraw my statement that Atlantis&#8217; position was somewhere to the East or in the Atlantic Ocean, as well as to give up the corresponding &#8220;coincidence&#8221; in my equation.</p>
<p>Even though, I think there are still a non-trivial number of interesting facts unaccounted for as regards the whole story (namely, the rest of the coincidences in the equation).</p>
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		<title>By: DarwynJackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarwynJackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised people haven&#039;t claimed this aberration to be an advancement of alien crop-circle technology. Only an advanced race could leave such &quot;perfect&quot; lines upon the surface of the ocean to make contact (assuming there are no better modes of contact) with us. This seems more defensible a theory than Atlantis... but perhaps not by much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised people haven&#8217;t claimed this aberration to be an advancement of alien crop-circle technology. Only an advanced race could leave such &#8220;perfect&#8221; lines upon the surface of the ocean to make contact (assuming there are no better modes of contact) with us. This seems more defensible a theory than Atlantis&#8230; but perhaps not by much.</p>
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